Henry: I can shoot 1000 yards on my farm. The load consisted of BR2 primers with H4831SC powder. Darrell tells us: Many of my customers take this brass and load it as is and go straight to a match and shoot some very nice groups., With Darrells hydro-forming service you dont have to buy any special dies or other equipment. Well, guess what that relay I shot a 200-19x, and the next relay I shot a 200-17x (these scores were on the old, larger F-Class target). My action of choice was a beefy 1.55-diameter, round BAT MB, Left Bolt, Right Port. My groups were respectable: a four-group, 3.055 Agg. Ian Klemm won his Second Straight F-TR National Championship last week. If I have switching conditions, I will remove all wind from the scope, slow down, use the flags and mirage, still holding off. The .284 Shehane shoots inside the 6.5 AND the straight .284, the .300 WSM, and the .300 Win Mag with less recoil. If you look at that 5-round group you might think it was shot with a 6 PPC or maybe a 6mmBR. Do you trickle to the kernel? 14ozs. Powder charges are dispensed and weighed with an RCBS ChargeMaster Electronic Dispenser, which is regularly calibrated with check-weights to assure accuracy. Lets just say it didnt go as planned. The Lapua brass is worth the difference. Dont want to invest in your own annealer? Here is member Quest45s handsome lever-action Henry .45-70 Gov and Glock 40 10mm. The extra boiler room is enough to drive the 180s at 2900-2950 fps with H4831sc, with long barrels. The .284 Win gives better barrel life with only giving up a few inches to the 7mmRSAUM. According to the official C.I.P. I asked him to modify my stock and fit it with the new forearm rails, shown in the photo below. At the 2009 F-Class Nationals, held at Camp Butner, NC, Ballard shot a 1328-62X to win his second straight National title. IMPORTANT: Contact Darrell for shipping instructions BEFORE sending brass for processing. Q: Henry, you can shoot long-distance on your own property in Missouri. Then the idea of We the People popped into the head. The 284 KMR IMP allows you to almost match magnum cartridge velocity in a standard-bolt-face action. You are using an out of date browser. This keeps the center of gravity low and helps the rifle recoil smoothly with less hop in the bags. Best powders for the .284 Win are H4350 and H4831SC. That takes time, costs money (in bullets and powder), and consumes precious barrel life. With the .284 Shehane, my bolt cycles like there is no case to eject. The new Master Class Low Profile stock shares the same grip as the old model. The ST-1000L & F are used in IBS, NBRSA and Williamsport 1000yd. var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s); I also sought barrel life that would be far superior to that of a 7mm WSM or 6.5-284. I figured if I get it up to 2935-2950 fps that will be a point or two saved in a several day match. On top is a Trijicon Accupower riflescope. Note I selected that load based on accuracy, NOT raw speed. The .284 Shehane has won in Benchrest as well as F-Class competition. My face rests on the stock and my shoulder is placed firmly into the buttplate. The Oehler consistently gave me readings of 2892 fps to 2902 fps with an SD of 4 fps using once-fired brass. The .284 Light Gun needed a muzzle brake and tuner. If you need formed brass for a new build (gun not yet fired), let me know and I will size the brass to fit within .001 of a PT&G GO gauge.. My old straight .284 load at 2890 fps had ES spread in single digits for 10 shots. History [ edit] The parent case .284 Winchester was created around 1963, but did not see extensive commercial use. Two 4 x 8 sheets of plywood hold four IBS targets. is formidable indeed. I also liked the fact that the MB (medium long front) action offered an extended front end. The bolt carrier will most likely be slamming into the back of your action as well, which is obviously bad. 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Joel explains: I like to have relatively new brass always ready. Q: You believe consistent neck tension (i.e. He won the 2014 United States F-Open Championship, and finished second in F-Open Division at the 2016 Canadian National F-Class Championship in Ontario. After that I play a little with seating depth and look for a change. I will run it through its paces shortly and see how well it does. You may see 40 units (on the K&M dial) dropping to 20, then slowly increasing pressure. Mark throated it very long so the the 180gr and 184gr Bergers would sit where they belong., Tuning the 7mm SAUM and Recoil Reduction I have a 29 barrel also though since its a setback. On top is a Leupold 40x45mm scope on a Picatinny rail that Grimstod machined himself. That would most definitely take a very stout charge in a magnum. The paint is Candy Apple Green, the forearm has a white base-coat, center section is gray base coat and the buttstock is black base coat, all covered with five coats of clear. Cody- do You also use the Atlas for competition? I bolted the barreled action in, and squeezed the end of the forearm and barrel together, the stock flexed a little bit, but not as much as other designs that I have tested. The 6.5-284 wins its share of matches, and is a true tack-driver when tuned right. The barrel is a Blake Machine 1:8-twist finished at 32 inches. With a good set-up, older guys can compete with anyone out there. Whats the water volume of the case? Darrell took the time to advised me every step of the way to allow me to shoot a 3.158 (5) shot group to win my first round of my first competitive match ever. Mike Youngblood, Share the post "Save Time and Barrel Life Let DJs Hydro-Form Your Brass". As falconpilot says work up to these loads and enjoy falconpilot Silver $$ Contributor Aug 29, 2009 #7 The .284 is my hands-down choice for shooting F-Class. I'd think throated properly and with the right powder, RL26 maybe, you'd be able to reach 2700 or more with just a straight 284. My purpose was to find a cartridge that would launch the high-BC, 180gr 7mm bullets at competitive velocities for F-Class competition. I had committed a big reloading No-No. It had 2000 as a straight .284 Win and then I set it back to .284 Shehane to form brass with. DJs Brass Service now offers custom case hydro-forming to your exact specs. We can turn your case-necks and trim the brass to your specs. Q: What you do enjoy most about long-range benchrest shooting? In the F-Open division, Norm Harrold of Team McMillan shot great from the start, topping the field to win the F-Open division. Ryan is using 54.0 grains simply as a fire-forming load. L6: 2.591 inch = 65.81 mm Barrel Length : 28.0 inch = 711.2 mm Powder : Hodgdon VARGET Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, incremented in steps of 0.652% of nominal charge. This means I typically shoot 120 to 150 rounds on average between barrel cleanings. Long-Range Only F-Open Cartridge This design versatility is one reason I recommend Master Class stocks. I use a bore guide when anything goes down the barrel. The extra boiler room is enough to drive the 180s at 2900-2950 fps with H4831sc, with long barrels. Do you think some guys clean too often or too aggressively? With the latest high-BC 7mm bullets, the original .284 Winchester is proving tough competition for its 6.5-284 offspring. Jason Jumped to Open Class after Starting with F-TR Products. If you do this with your fouler shots you get your fire-forming accomplished without using up any extra barrel life.. The chamber was cut with a reamer made for Lapua 6.5-284 brass necked up to 7mm. 7mm Short Magnum Options The laminated stock was modified by Tommy Shurley from a standard 3-wide fore-end to a 5-wide True-Trac with an adjustable 3-wide rear plate. I contacted Darrell to hydraulically form 6mm Dasher from Lapua 6mm BR brass. I push out to 600 yds and do a ladder test in round-robin format. Henry: I had 20/10 vision when I was young, but am down to only 20/20. One of the most popular features of our Shooters Forum is the ongoing Pride and Joy thread. Tuners definitely can work. I added a 3/4 track rail in the rear, and milled the underside of the fore-end to create two parallel rails in the front to help the stock track better. It is a no-brainer for long range F-Class or Prone or 1000-yard Benchrest., Scotlands Grant Taylor. Two months ago, I was contacted by Duane, a gentleman I met at the 2015 F-Class Nationals. Congratulations to the new F-Class Champions. Note the 5-wide fore-end which is not legal for F-Class. The accompanying data was developed using Sierra bullets fired in a 26-inch Match Grade Machine test . In 2013, Henry Pasquet won the IBS 1000-Yard Nationals shooting a .284 Shehane. Below is a video by Editor F-Class John, showing the features of the Kestros ZR stock. I have high hopes of it being an great gun. The rifle is a dream to shoot now with a big reduction in felt recoil.. I find that funny because if could somehow properly size the cases for three fire-forming cycles, I would not need a sizing die. The DDR-2 has a heavier horizontal line, with a center dot. This stunning .284 Shehane rifle was constructed as a raffle prize to benefit Team USA members preparing for the F-Class World Championship. Typical load for a Shehane is around 57.0 grains of Hodgdon H4831 SC." By blowing the sidewalls out 0.010, the .284 Shehane picks up about 3.3 grains of extra case capacity. For those who do not have a dedicated barrel for fire-forming, this should help keep your round-count down. I use Lapua brass (6.5-284 necked-up), CCI BR-2 primers, Hodgdon H4350 powder, and Berger 184gr bullets. I will occasionally mess with the tuner and tighten things up if possible. What is your barrel cleaning procedure? A 284 Shehane at 2900f.p.s. I use Bore Tech Eliminator on three patches, then follow with a wet nylon brush. When searching for custom dies, it almost seems like that the odds are stacked against us. ALL Bulletin content is copyrighted, 2023 AccurateShooter.com. The Vortex Golden Eagle HD scope showed the mirage I needed in order to make timely wind-hold decisions.. var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true; This would also severely limit barrel life in a F-Class rifle. Ease of Load Tuning After record fire begins I shoot very fast, holding off for the wind. Tom was shooting a .284 Shehane cartrdige in the new McMillan Kestros stock. Q: How much of your success do you credit to really accurate rifles, versus superior shooting skills? Given a 26-inch tube, this number easily launches moly-plated 142-grain Sierra MatchKings at 3,150 fps. The stock is an HS Precision painted by Premier Accuracy. I have a concrete bench using a slab from a yard furniture place on concrete blocks. Despite the issues I explained in the load development section with low initial velocities on new barrels, I would say the .284 is fairly easy to tune. Enjoy this trip back in time to when the .284 Win was the new kid on the block. All Kriegers. Note: With this fouler fire-forming routine, you should ALWAYS do the fire-forming with the SAME POWDER you load for your match ammo. Cartridge Choice A 40 .284 Win Improved The most common problem is wait-time custom die orders can take months to be completed. At my age I am not good at computers. The proud owner, Forum member Aeon, tells us: This is a Gary Eliseo RTM chassis with pickle forks. Yes, thats a long, heavy barrel, but I think the length gives me a velocity advantage. Team member Jay Christopherson praised his team-mates and also gave credit to his rivals: Team Grizzly was outstanding for the LR Open Gold. My .284 barrel now has 1,036 rounds, and by all indications it will shoot well to 3,000+ rounds. You Better Believe It. The 6.5 caliber allowed for the use of long, aerodynamic bullets. It is a no-brainer for long range F-Class or Prone or 1000-yard Benchrest., If you look at that 5-round group you might think it was shot with a 6 PPC or maybe a 6mmBR. It was one week before the match and I had a rifle and no rounds. Gun builder Ryan Pierce of Piercision Rifles explains: Heres a 5-shot 0.191 group at 100 yards with my .284 Shehane fireforming loads. My old straight .284 load at 2890 fps had ES spread in single digits for 10 shots. OK, if we now net the barrel cost savings (-$.25) for the .284 with the higher cost of 7mm reloading components (+$.07), I figure the .284 Win costs $.18 per round LESS to shoot than the 6.5-284. The front rest is a SEB Max (see above). I think this dog will hunt!, Share the post "Sunday Gunday: December Pride & Joy Rifles". Darrell Jones offers this service for a variety of popular cartridges: 6 PPC, 30 PPC, 30 BR, 6 BRA (BR Ackley), 6mm Grinch, 6 BRDX, 6 BRX, .260 Ackley, .284 Shehane and of course the very popular 6mm Dasher. Share the post "Save Time and Bullets Fire-Form with your Fouler Shots". Choices for Mid-Range in Tougher Conditions: This optic is ultra clear, reasonably lightweight (28 oz. I did trim the Berger VLDs to the shortest bullet length with a Hoover Trimmer, and then pointed the meplats just enough to close them with a Whidden pointer. This load gave us 2910 fps velocity with an Extreme Spread (ES) of 7 fps and a Standard Deviation (SD) of 3 fps over ten (10) shots. The extra boiler room is enough to drive the 180s at 2900-2950 fps with H4831sc, with long barrels. I chose Bryan for two reasons first, I have shot with him a few times at National matches and he is approachable and very helpful. Would love to read more about the Shehane, as apparently Sabatti has three factory rifles (Evo, TLD and STR Sport) to offer in this cartridge: https://www.sabatti.it/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Catalogo2020En.pdf. He was 66 at the time. He posted: Some like synthetic and some like wood I have both. It had 2000 as a straight .284 Win and then I set it back to .284 Shehane to form brass with. This 22 BR Savage, with upgrades from Sharpshooter Supply, is the pride and joy of Forum member Maynard. This made the extraction of fired cases very difficult. The straight .284 Win is an excellent cartridge, quite capable of winning F-class matches. Use a Nightforce NSX 5.5-22x50 scope with the MOAR- T reticle (super fine reticle) Load should be 52.3 gr H4350, CCI BR2 primer, Norma 284 brass, Berger 180 Hybrid and seat it 15 thou off. Jason Cohens We the People patriotic .284 Shehane F-Class rifle. After sizing, the case mouths are cleaned with a spinning bronze brush. After my first string this load started hammering. Q: Tell us about the combined tuner/muzzle brake on some of your barrels. Dealer Locator. Here is why: You have to shoot a 30 Cal Magnum with a 240gr bullet to equal the performance of most 7mm chamberings with the 180 Berger VLD. Note the heavy-contour custom barrel with brake. It is chambered (no surprise) for the 6 PPC cartridge, which dominates the short-range game. Cartridge : 6-284 6mm/284 Shehane Bullet : .243, 87, Hornady BTHP 2442 Useable Case Capaci: 60.930 grain H2O = 3.956 cm Cartridge O.A.L. Then give Darrell Jones at DJs Brass a call at 205-461-4680. The stocks track perfectly. It was still early in the morning and I felt that the heavier bullets would be easier to see against the berm. At this point I began working with different primers, neck tension and seating depth. The rifle began its life as a Will McClosky Cerus stock. The price starts at $60.00 per hundred for standard cases or $75.00/100 for magnum size. Just wondering if it is enough for 284W f class. But my .284, with its high-BC Berger 180s, shot inside both the 6.5 and 300 by at least 3 every time. This article covers only the (currently) most popular cartridge/bullet combos for F-Class (F-Open and F-TR). Ill make my wind call while the target is in the pits; if my previous shot went where I thought it would I will take my next shot as soon as the target stops. The case length of the .284 measures 2.170" (55.1mm). Kovan Match Rifles LLC, www.matchrifles.com. However, by blowing the sidewalls out 0.010, the .284 Shehane picks up about 3.3 grains of extra case capacity. If you want to run 180gr-class 7mm bullets over 2900 FPS, it is cheaper and more convenient to have a barrel chambered in 284 KMR IMP than to spend $650 for a magnum bolt. Dont have time to neck-turn hundreds of cases? Q: During the Nationals, at the last minute you switched guns. After the NC State Champs, the gun went into hibernation for the winter. Others will tell you that the rifle must be on to win. 2018 was my first National event and was a learning experience for me. About his two guns he posted: All I need is a can of bear spray. This would provide better support for a very long barrel and give more bedding surface. After the brass is sorted, I chamfer the case mouths with an RCBS VLD tool. Emil Kovan is one of the top F-Class shooters in the world. Recently had Darrell Jones of DJs Brass Service hydro-form 6 BRX brass for me. Neck-turning is an additional $0.60 (sixty cents) per case (or $0.75 for magnums) plus actual return shipping. Just five years ago Forum member Henry Pasquet (aka HenryP) got started in 1000-yard benchrest shooting. I started with Time Precision tuners. On Saturday my .284 was absolutely hammering, but Sunday I started noticing a hard bolt lift. The rifle features a BAT B Action. Jerry said go for it and, as it turned out, the rifle delivered the velocity I wanted, plus extraordinary accuracy to boot. Gun builder Ryan Pierce of Piercision Rifles explains: Heres a 5-shot 0.191 group at 100 yards with my .284 Shehane fire-forming loads. Multi-Discipline Versatility NOTE: Charles Ballard always employs eye and ear protection when shooting. I had a local gunsmith cut a thread on the muzzle brake for a tuner I got from Sid Goodling. I offer that die-making service in addition to barrel chambering. I didnt have a good paintwork place so I had to improvise. I used to shoot F-TR before this and made the transition to Open last season. If you want more than a standard 284 Win in a short-fat, move up to a 7mm WSM. Share the post "Is the .284 Shehane Inherently Accurate? Housed in a polished, stainless BAT trigger guard is a Jewel trigger set at 5 ounces. Darrell is a hydro-forming wizard who has perfected the process over the last couple of years. 1; 2; Next. Sign in Powder Load Development - 284. and F-class cross the coarse shooting. My 6.5-284 barrel went south at 900 rounds. F-Class shooter Erik Cortina notes that the .284 Shehane has a velocity edge over the straight .284 Win because it holds more powder: The Shehane has more capacity than the .284 Winchester. Another great service DJs Brass provides is precision neck-turning. In February of 2008, NSSC held its annual winter Palma match. Owner Aeon tells us: The 7 SAUM was as easy a gun as I have ever shot to find a good load for H1000 gave great consistency and tuning was not hard. But no, this was done with heavy 180gr Berger Hybrid bullets and the .284 Shehane. Amazing..!! I think thats why Ive been able to build loads that consistently deliver single-digit Extreme Spreads with ultra-low SDs. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Report by Emil Kovan I have nothing against clear-coated wood, but I wanted something different, as this was my first all-wood rifle. As much as I like the .284 Win, for long-range competitions I like the .300 WSM even more. Now, we are pursuing sub-one-inch vertical at 600 yards! More speed, less pressure? BAT Machine M Action He tells us: In my humble opinion, the .284 Shehane is the best balanced long-range round there is bar none. I have known Alex Sitman for many years, and use his stocks exclusively, but was not very familiar with his new Low Profile F-Open stock. Its the new pride of the fleet as it shoots as good as it looks. We would compare notes frequently. My load for all barrels is 52g 2209 with 180vlds. We are blessed with many good match-quality receivers: Barnard, BAT, Borden, Kelbly, Nesika, and Stiller just to mention a few. We ran about .002 neck tension with the 180s seated just touching the lands. var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true; grip on the bullet) is really important. In this sport, you can excel even in your 60s, 70s and beyond. Let DJ do the work for you! Mike Wilson (3 Time IBS Record Holder; 2013 and 2014 1000-yard IBS Shooter of the Year. Darrell can neck-turn any size case to your specified neck-wall thickness. Henry told us: I want to share every lesson Ive learned, so that other guys can improve their game and enjoy the sport more. Henry also wants to encourage other senior shooters: If you pay attention to details (when reloading), and get a good rifle with a good barrel, age is not a handicap.